Disciple of INDYCAR Weblog

October 23, 2013

A ‘Defender’ Off Topic Observation About Indy Racing Forums

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 9:34 pm

Blogging is kind of fun but can occasionally get tedious. On the list over the next few days is a relatively wistful look back at the 1970s and innovation the sport experienced, all triggered by looking at a restored IndyCar from that period while at the Fontana race. Writing for an external audience can be a chore at times when you are stalked by a handful of ‘fans’ that continuously contribute commentary that is completely unrelated to actual blog topics and usually expressed in the colorful language of an average fourth grader.

OWR OnlineWhy is this important enough to discuss? It is not, really. But considering the volume of ‘fan’ mail received about a recent incident I should at least provide the courtesy of a blanket response. A few weeks ago my ‘Defender’ persona was banned from a relatively new racing bulletin board/forum called OWR Online. A few months earlier the ‘Disciple’ persona was banned from the larger and more popular trackforum after the previous 15K post level ‘Defender’ met the same fate. In both cases no specific reasons were given other than obtuse, vague generalizations about the ‘tone’ not being right, not being a ‘fit’ for a forum, contributions to other sites and other such obfuscation and excuse making.

McCondreismThe D ‘fan’ club seems obsessed with this. Why? I do not understand. They are forums on the internet. They are not saving any lives. It does not matter in the big picture. My thought is that my absence from such forums is their loss, not mine. My forced absence also provides an opportunity to point out odd behaviors by otherwise well-intentioned forum operators which can vary from hypocritical to dishonest to downright ludicrous and a lot in between. One laugh inducing claim forum operators enjoy making is that diverse viewpoints are encouraged. I do not know of one racing forum that actually does that.

Saying one thing but enforcing something else is not unprecedented in society. American history is rife with examples of ‘undesirables’ being excluded, banished or otherwise castigated because, well, they just do not ‘fit.’

The ExclusionistsIf some of these self-important forum operators were honest with themselves and others their behavior would not be so simultaneously funny and egregious. One friend of mine called it the ‘Howard Stern’ syndrome in which readers complain vociferously about the way ‘Defender’ expresses his opinions but hang on every word to see what will be posted next.  I would disagree, but given the volume of mail about something as insignificant as exclusion from a public forum the point is easy to understand. If operators of places like trackforum and OWR were actually honest they might say some are excluded because we just don’t like the ‘fans’ Defender drags in.

The primary mistake forum operators make while running their little mini-kingdoms is completely misunderstanding points being made by excluded contributors. They get tripped up over things like ‘tone.’ As always I will put my credentials as a fan up against those of anyone else. I made it to most IndyCar events again this season including Fontana last weekend.

No oddballs 1There are very few discernible differences in the rhetoric or actions of insecure forum operators and racists, commie chasers or witch hunters in terms of societal exclusion of certain members of communities they dislike. In addition to their own dishonest actions they do a disservice to their audiences.

Please do not misinterpret my words as bitter, particularly as I laugh. The pathetic behavior of others is their problem and not mine. Besides, I have my own place to express opinions, and folks seem to like it. So what is the problem?

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19 Comments »

  1. Welcome to the club. Some people have a hard time dealing with the truth. No matter how painful it may be, we need to remind people that we are the voice of what was. I agree with your thoughts but I think most people have become sheep. If the powers that be say its great, then you are supposed to buy into the deal and think its great. I think we had a sample of this at Jonestown back in the late 70’s. One leader, a flock of people and a tub of Kool-Aid. How that work out people? Same for Indy Car. Ignore the problems, you will get the same results. Hang in there D, you and I may not see things eye to eye all the time, but at least your willing to listen and write of what we all want…..a change back to a better series. Keep punching those keys and I will keep responding. Sooner or later they are going to have to listen.

    Comment by oldwrench — October 24, 2013 @ 12:12 pm | Reply

    • Oldwrench is correct. (snip)Yet another off topic, taunt-filled, factually inaccurate, fourth grade-level attempt at typing words from one of the handful of squatting hate site idiots unable to forge anything even remotely resembling an intelligent thought. But at least this one got three words out before it turned stupid.(/snip)

      Comment by Racingdentist — October 25, 2013 @ 3:37 am | Reply

  2. Stop Whinging you big baby. Sheeesh….
    Editor’s Note: Perhaps you should A) learn how to read, B) comprehend what you read, C) learn how to spell words such as ‘whining,’ and D) meaningfully contribute something/anything for a change.

    Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — October 24, 2013 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

    • Blah blah blah. IRL gets worst ratings in history of the League/Series this year. Still circling the toilet…..
      Editor’s Note: Way to stay on topic ADD boy. A+ for persistence in the ‘boy crying wolf’ category. It is merely difficult for an adult like me to fathom how one small group of blithering idiots can be so willfully stupid for so long. You mental giants have been shrieking ‘the end is near’ for eighteen years. And for eighteen years you have have looked even more stupid than the year prior. Is it not time for you to either grow up or find some new obsession? Seriously…the small group of you look really small and moronic. Perhaps professional help is warranted.

      Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — October 26, 2013 @ 9:58 am | Reply

  3. (snip)Yet another off topic, taunt-filled, factually inaccurate, fourth grade-level attempt at typing words from one of the handful of squatting hate site idiots unable to forge anything even remotely resembling an intelligent thought.(/snip)

    Comment by Racingdentist — October 25, 2013 @ 3:35 am | Reply

  4. (snip)Yet another off topic, taunt-filled, factually inaccurate, fourth grade-level attempt at typing words from one of the handful of squatting hate site idiots unable to forge anything even remotely resembling an intelligent thought.(/snip)

    Comment by Troyboi — October 25, 2013 @ 3:49 am | Reply

    • What are you afraid of?
      Editor’s Note: See? This is the kind of off-topic nonsense that makes zero sense here. If you have a point, try to make one intelligently. If you do not, stew silently in your own immaturity and leave the blog commentary section to adults. Capisce?

      Comment by IRL is your bloggy — October 28, 2013 @ 12:08 am | Reply

      • (Snip)Additional obsessed, vulgar, profane, paranoia-filled, barely literate cries for help by one of the children of the cart(/Snip)

        Comment by Troyboi — November 5, 2013 @ 5:51 am

  5. Man, if only I could get my wife elected to one of them Marion County gubermint jobs I could spend my hours on the intardwebs flaming people.

    Comment by Peter Burns — October 26, 2013 @ 2:50 pm | Reply

    • That would be awesome, no? I am just trying to point out to Defender how he has blindly followed your idiotic series all the way down the toilet bowl. I would think he would be smart enough to jump out while he can. I wouldnt call it flaming, rather helpful guidance. But then again…
      Editor’s Note: I’m just curious as to how it’s possible to concoct fantasy then delude yourselves into belief that fantasy becomes gospel. I guess when you think like a four year old anything is possible. Meantime, here in the 18th year after the first hysterical screeching of doom, I’m still enjoying lots of racing. Go figure.

      Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — October 26, 2013 @ 8:12 pm | Reply

      • Sure doesnt seem like you are “enjoying” much these days. LOL. Do you even read the crap you write?
        Editor’s Note: As usual, your perception is very distant from actual reality. I am very happy, though mildy depressed the Indy Racing season is concluded until March. I dislike winter weather. I do read what I write; I sincerely wish the five or six of you making asses of yourselves in comment sections would too.

        Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — October 27, 2013 @ 11:48 pm

  6. Maybe if you were not such a douchebag and defending ineptness the way you do you would last longer. (snip)…additional 4th-grade-level off-topic, vulgar, fantasy-based stereotypes complete with misspelling and bad grammar…(/snip).
    Editor’s Note: Perhaps if you A) evolved your approach beyond that of a fourth grader, B) developed the intellectual agility of more than a common garden worm, C) learned how to read and D) actually contributed something of substance you might be taken seriously. Your actual words, however, do a much more effective job pointing out your special brand of abject stupidity far better than I am capable of describing.

    Comment by Willy Pheistergache — October 27, 2013 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  7. Why do my comments keep disappearing?
    Editor’s Note: Not aware they are. I’ll check the spam folder when time allows. Often posts filled with illiteracy, profanity or other unevolved ranting automatically go there. So I’ll check.

    Comment by Troyboi — October 28, 2013 @ 12:06 am | Reply

    • (Snip)Additional obsessed, vulgar, profane, paranoia-filled, barely literate, WAAYYYYY off topic cries for help by one of the children of the cart(/Snip)

      Comment by Troyboi — November 6, 2013 @ 1:30 am | Reply

  8. Why do you keep editing legitimate comments responding to your bloviation? What are you afraid of, IRLdefender?
    Editor’s Note: Refer to the gracious answer to your previous idiotic, pointless, off-topic question. If you confine commentary to the actual topic they usually get approved, whether they are illiterate or not. If they veer away from the topic in blatant ways there is no point in approving them because A) content has zero to do with the topic and B) are usually expressed in vulgar, misspelled, grammar deprived, fourth-grade-level nonsense they usually do not. It’s really pretty simple. Nowthen, do you have ANYTHING of substance to contribute or just whining?

    Comment by IRL is your bloggy — October 28, 2013 @ 12:23 am | Reply

  9. Wow looks like the all mighty defender is the last of the IRL fans that care. Izod gone, GoDaddy gone, HP gone, Honda gone from St Petes. This gets better every week.
    Editor’s Note: Actually, there are over a million that attended races this year that might take a more realistic approach. Millions more watched on TV’ even more if you include Indy. I was looking at a list of sponsors that left during a supposed period of utopia in the days of yore, and found that at least 35 major sponsors and manufacturers left. You kids seem to believe sponsors turnover is unique to IndyCar. That is stupidity personified. Nowthen, what do your developmentally disabled bullet points have to do with the blog topic?

    Comment by Randy B — October 28, 2013 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  10. Troyboi/Grungex does not appear to be or at least act more than eight years old.

    Comment by Jack Mehoff — October 28, 2013 @ 9:54 pm | Reply

    • (Snip)Additional obsessed, vulgar, profane, paranoia-filled, barely literate cries for help by one of the children of the cart(/Snip)

      Comment by Troyboi — November 5, 2013 @ 5:49 am | Reply

      • (Snip)Additional obsessed, vulgar, profane, paranoia-filled, barely literate, WAAYYYYY off topic cries for help by one of the children of the cart(/Snip)

        Comment by Troyboi — November 6, 2013 @ 1:29 am


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