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April 24, 2009

BBQ on the Brain (and FAST Italian Cars)

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 2:41 am

Musings before boarding the bizjet to Kansas City (they got some crazy little women there and I’m gonna get me one-I always liked that song). . .

hornishSam Hornish, Jr. is an interesting character. When he was driving in the IRL he said he was happy with the series, the number of events and the pace. Then came the tiff that found Sr. on his arse in pit lane. I do not believe it was the same after that. That notion is crystallized by comments he made in the Star about what happens if he washes out of Cup. He says the Nationwide or Truck series would be the destination and not Indy Racing. Interesting. I do not know if it means anything, but it is curious.

On a completely unrelated note the former cart employees now running Indy Car are evidently taking a trip to China to discuss a race in that country. On one hand it makes sense if they hand them millions up front and pay all the freight. It ignores the fan base in North America, but what else is new? On the other hand, what would we have to give up? Another oval race at a great track like Kansas? I hope not.

I am all for expanding and growing the brand, but is this the right place, venue and time? Have they given up on the great tracks across America that want the series?

Word of advice: Ovals. Natural terrain road courses. About a 65/35 mix in favor of ovals. Forget the street circuits.



  1. Again, the relationship between ISC and IRL has become too strained. NASCAR seemingly have made the decision to treat all other forms of racing as competition, competition that must be killed off. They took Digger to the trailor, they’ve taken Tony. I am sure they’ve taken Sam there too.

    I think Sam is talking the party line. And NASCAR have becomed more defensive with the current situation. Look for more negative articles from reporters that favor NASCAR and hurt Indy Car, Danica leaving and such. Yes, the demoralizing barbs will be directed at Indy Car and the Indy 500. I’d bet Petty entering the 500 mile race didn’t help things in this regard.

    At what point does Penske tell Sam,,, ‘common man’?

    To heck with China. Unless there’s enough money to make it work and then pad the series, don’t bother. I say, if they really want a race, make it worth our while. Build the great wall or all racing venues. If you’re just going to set up cones in the street… forgetit.

    Comment by Mike Miller — April 24, 2009 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

  2. Interesting information about China. I had also heard talk of interest from Brazil. I don’t necessarily think international expansion is a bad thing, so long as it brings the $$$ to cover expenses. In this day and age of globalization, there are a lot of potential sponsors that would see the global exposure as a positive. I do agree that natural terrain road courses would be preferable to temporary street circuits. China has two road courses that I know off having been used in F1 (Zuhai and Shanghai)

    Having grown up near the Glen, I have a soft spot for Road Course racing. I do like the diversity of IndyCar tracks, but agree that at least 30-50% should be ovals. I think that F1’s insistence on extortion has opened an opportunity for international growth, but IndyCar needs to be smart, and not try too much, too soon. Montreal would be a better addition than either Brazil or China, but in this age of ride buying, race buying (Motegi)is something we just have to accept.

    Comment by Turbine68 — April 24, 2009 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  3. I agree that street circuits are boring, but it sure seems like the fans in St. Pete and Long Beach turned out in droves and enjoyed themselves. So I’d like to keep any race that is successful, even if it’s not my cup of tea. As far as losing ovals–as long as they too are supported by fans and are successful–we shouldn’t lose them either. Maybe the solution is just have more races and a longer season.

    Comment by redd — April 24, 2009 @ 3:21 pm | Reply

  4. Good thing we got to see an oval. No more long lines of parade cars. No fuel conservation wins. No thinking, can we pit now so there might be a change in the leaders. Oh…wait…

    Comment by The American Mutt — April 27, 2009 @ 12:18 am | Reply

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