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September 30, 2009

Nil Bastardo Carborundum, Anton!

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 2:34 am

Defender to the RescueSome of the more idiotic of the obsessed Defender followers seem to lump me (and many others) into a category of Tony George worship, usually accompanied by colorfully descriptive epithets. Names such as ‘boot licker’ or ‘kool-aid drinker’ are common. So are scatological references dealing with perceived intimate contact.

AntonThis has been a banner year for Tony’s howling critics. It is my sincere hope that the outrageous squealing since 1995 by imbeciles who have never truly understood the meaning of the words ‘ill advised boycott’ has not played any part in driving the man away. Tony is not responsible for the failure of cart; cart did that to themselves mostly because they stupidly believed they could de-emphasize Indy and remain successful.

Tony brought the sport back around for a time until the cart-centric personalities and ideals crept back in. The homogenized spec racing series we have today is a direct result of that return. The perceived problems Tony has run deeper than just yammering malcontents stuck in a prior decade. The sisters voted him off the island and mums is said to be miffed over the removal of the landmark outside turn 2. Then there is the money.

SistersMost people understand those types of politics. As generations pass, many times succeeding relatives dilute the purity of what ancestors built. Even those enamored of Hulmans and Georges occasionally wonder how a business operated mostly with cronyism and nepotism and all the sophistication of a lemonade stand got as big as it did. The future is up to others to decide now, but I have always thought the model of a visionary leader linked to someone capable of running a successful business works fine. Tony Hulman had immense vision and Joe Cloutier.

Visionary II would not blame Tony George if he gathered up all his toys, headed out to sea, then mooned the state of Indiana permanently. He has had more dung thrown his way than a bagger in a fertilizer factory. I hope he does not take that path. IMS is too valuable to place into others hands. It is possible his daughter has a spark, but I do not give the current young generation much credit in the vision area. I also do not see Mr. Belksus as a suitable Joe Cloutier successor, but it is early.

Vacation? Yep. But I would like to believe Tony will return and really kick some ass this time. Take no prisoners.



  1. Tony George may have had vision for the series and the Speedway, but whether that vision was sufficiently focused is a matter for debate and that is what should be important now. The series needs vision and focus – it cannot operate with one and not the other and unfortunately Tony George’s downfall may have come about due to lack of a bulls-eye.

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman — September 30, 2009 @ 8:29 am | Reply

  2. I think this is more an issue about those who are getting worked up than the subject of the home being put up for sale. It’s a non-issue.

    I can only imagine if Tony George would have made the comment about Hitler getting things done. Turns out, Bernie made the comment and to most of these TG pounders, Bernie is AOK.

    Comment by Mike Miller — September 30, 2009 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  3. Somebody has got to stop the march to F1 light. Watching parade cars is even more boring than the truck series. The only thing remotely interesting about road racing is the qualifying. And by the third or fourth car, it gets old.

    Looking forward to the day when open wheel comes back to Tony, on their knees, and begging him to save their little community. Maybe then everyone will realize who the real enemy of open wheel racing is, a guy by the name of Roger Penske, he of the “ill advised boycott”.

    Comment by Bob F. — September 30, 2009 @ 12:49 pm | Reply

    • hey bob, the guy who has molded the irl into a cheap F1/CART lite knock-off, is tony george. he tried to save open wheel once, and look where we are now. don’t blame roger penske! tony was the boss, and it was his decisions that have brought us to where we are today.

      tony brought (bought$$$) penske, ganassi, rahal, fernandez and all the ex-CART boys over.

      Comment by jay — September 30, 2009 @ 7:16 pm | Reply

  4. you guys are absolutely hilarious. continue on…

    a guy like tony george just loves you puppets. you need to have a bunch of fools that are easy to manipulate in order to pull off the crap tony did he last 15 years and get away with it.

    CART boycotted the indy5 defender? still flogging that dead horse. tony himself stated his biggest mistake was the 25/8 rule that he himself, implemented. did you also miss when tony said he wanted a series like CART all along? he basically said his original vision, the one you types bought hook, line and sinker, was a lie. did you miss the empty seats at the indy500 because of the glare off of the aluminum seats? no matter what side of the fence you are on in the open wheel wars, facts are facts…the I5 was always sold out when cart ran there, and they never had to resort to mass mailing campaigns to sell tickets. not making excuses defender (you too miller), just stating obvious facts.

    grow up guys, we have all lost here.

    tell me something honestly, no mudslinging and BS now…if/when the irl goes belly up, where will all the open wheel fans be left standing? even if it continues in it’s present form, just as champ car did it’s last two years, we all still lose, as we will be fed a lame-duck product.

    alot of the staunch fans of the irl like to use the economy as a crutch, but that is just a cop-out. yes, the economy is somewhat of a factor, but how is it that F1 and NASCAR still manage to march along? sure, they have lost sponsors and have seen attendance drop, but not to the extent of the irl. goes to just re-enforce that old adage, put a good product out there and give the fans something that is worth watching, and they will come. sorry boys, the irl just does not do that.

    you used to laugh and make fun of people defender, that said tony george will be run out of town one day. you used to say that will never happen. just like you said GM would never leave. just like you said toyota would never leave. just like you said ABC paid north of $23 million per year to the league (we have found out from ABC that it was just over $11 mill per, and most of that money was for one race, the I5). you laughed when CART/CCWS had to be aired on spikeTV (now the earl is on versus, same shit). many other things you claimed as fact, only known to you because of your “insider” staus and you claiming to be some sort of big shot, proven to be lies. point? maybe you should quit the BS, and work towards helping indycar grow with the truth and constructive criticism. what you are doing now, is giving everyone a reason to paint all the irl fans with one brush, and it is not a very nice picture you are painting.

    Editor’s note: The current year is 2009. The world has changed in fundamental ways since 1995. Apples to cement comparisons by those not blessed with any discernable ability to successfully process even basic synaptic activity remain kinda quaint. One day when I have a few moments I will explain reality to you again with a high probability you still won’t get it.

    Comment by jay — September 30, 2009 @ 7:11 pm | Reply

    • more BS from you defender.

      that tired “the world has changed since 1995” rhetoric from you is old, and holds no merit.

      the indy500 never needed any gimmicks, or any mass mailing campaigns to sell seats…they do now. why do other sports league’s premier events continue to sell out then…the super bowl, the kentucky derby, the stanley cup finals, the NBA finals, the daytona 500, etc;???

      your replies reek of desperation and pure BS. typical of you.
      Editor’s note: I would suggest checking your facts.

      Comment by jay — September 30, 2009 @ 10:21 pm | Reply

  5. Vacation? Yep. But I would like to believe Tony will return and really kick some ass this time. Take no prisoners.

    haha, maybe tony should start up an all-american, affordable grassroots oval series? oops! hahahaha. step outside the box once in awhile fat man, and read the crap you post, maybe then one of the synapses will fire up in that melon of yours, and you will see truly how stupid you are (doubt it).

    Comment by jay — September 30, 2009 @ 10:51 pm | Reply

  6. Indycar’s in really bad shape, and the split is to blame. What the series really need is Roger Penske running Indycar. He’d do the best job, and ran on both sides during the split. But, it would make him owning a team a problem, and he loves winning the 500. Still, the 1995 season scheduale isn’t that great. Go on wikipedia or go to http://www.batracer.com and look at Champcar 2.0. There’s only two ovals over 1 mile! Plus, the 1995 season is really short, and some tracks don’t even exist anymore.

    Comment by dylan — October 1, 2009 @ 8:03 pm | Reply

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