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February 5, 2010

Separating Indianapolis Motor Speedway Fact From Sleazeball Fiction

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 12:22 am

The only thing more embarrassing to our great sport than the hijinks of youthful disenfranchised cart enthusiasts who refuse to budge from 1995 are niche NASCAR-centric, semi-literate buffoons with self esteem issues. As is the case with a handful of our favorite cart nutjobs, a small but vocal NASCAR-centric minority also disseminate their own brand of utter and complete stupidity on the Internet. You will need some background to understand my latest harebrained rant, and here it is. There is a contributor to the Indiana Business Journal named Norm Heikens, who is probably neither a youthful cart enthusiast stuck in 1995 nor a NASCAR-style redneck. But I could be wrong. His column is what started this whole mess.

In that column the other day Heikens concocted a doomsday scenario in which both Eli Lilly and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway cease to exist in the city of Indianapolis and what the impact of such a loss might be. Frankly, given the degree to which mergers and takeovers reshape the pharmaceutical industry every year, the loss of ‘ol uncle Eli is not beyond the realm of possibility. But IMS? No way. Even if the Hulman George family was collectively stupid enough to sell it the track is a part of the historic fabric of the state, the nation and the world. I am confident I will be long deceased before IMS ceases to exist as the biggest racing stage anywhere.

That column has been forum fodder, particularly on a couple of IRL hate sites, since it was written. In their usual show of hypocrisy, those who claim to hate all things Indy slither forth to pontificate anyway. I will quote one of the most extreme lunatics, if for no other reason that it is fun to point out thinking deficiency sometimes. Admittedly not mature, but mildly entertaining. That matters to me.

“Well, I doubt the track will go out of business, My guess is that either ISC or SMI will buy it, possibly at a rock bottom price, but I doubt it will close down. I would prefer ISC buy it, simply because it would be the fulfillment of Bill France Sr’s words from back in the early 50s, when a JERK named Hulman had him thrown off of the grounds of the track for asking if a NASCAR race could be run there. He said as he was being thrown off the grounds, “One day I will own this place!” His family would own it if that sceniro came to pass so that is enough vindication for me!  Like I said however, I doubt it will close down.”

What is a ‘sceniro?’ Let us more closely examine the events of May 14, 1954, shall we? But first we have to go to February 22, 1969. That is when the Daytona Beach Morning Journal ran a long, detailed piece about Big Bill France and his history. One paragraph even pointed out the strong friendship he and Tony Hulman shared. Mr. Hulman did not sound like much of a JERK there. Probably not potentially a RACIST, either. Although Bill France was also close buddies with George Wallace. But I digress.

So that is one misconception spun by an ignorant person. Here is another: While it was true Mr. France was given a bum’s rush, it was not out of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, it was out of the garage area of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Misconception 2A: Bill asking for a NASCAR date back in ’54, especially as the cause for the toss, has always been merely a twisted hilljack fantasy.

Third misconception: Tony Hulman did NOT order the Bill France toss. Harry McQuinn, the Brian Barnhart of his day, did. Why? Because France had fraudulently used a borrowed badge for entry to the garage area. That exact same trick will get you thrown out today and your badge will get revoked. It would have been a lot easier for Bill to ask Tony for credentials. Tony, his good friend, would have granted them immediately.

Fourth misconception: That he ever shouted one day he would ‘own the place.’ What he did confide privately to friends was that he would build a better 2.5 mile speedway than Indianapolis had. The high banked, poorly paved (at least now) Daytona track (the one with half the history, not to mention seats, of Indy) stands there in Daytona, and has become the NASCAR marquee.

Naturally drawn conclusion: The person who offered that hateful revisionist nonsense is not really very bright in terms of history. Further proof that intelligence is not one his strong points is this nugget:

“As to the falling popularity of it’s May race series, that has been slowly dying for years and young people haven’t been interested in years.”

Hmmm. The last time I attended and checked, attendance has risen at Indy over the past few years. Even in down years it remains, by a large margin, the largest attended single day sporting event in the world. I see people of all ages, and increasingly diverse races as well. Television ratings remain strong although they mirror the downward trend of ratings generally. The purse keeps rising.

‘Not very bright’ rapidly becomes ‘downright stupid’ when clueless commentary by hostile natives is fingered from certain rural southern areas in Georgia. He might not like hearing that NASCAR’s attendance at Indy and other venues has been plummeting recently.

“Arrogance of many of it’s fans toward every other form of racing and every other form of racing’s fans have played a HUGE part in this, as most people don’t want to be around or sit in the stands with a bunch of jerks like many of those people are. You don’t attract people by bashing or insulting them, the parts of the country that they come from or the things, such as their favorite forms of racing, that they like! Unfortunately, for them, they did that and they are paying the price for it BIG TIME! Now, go ahead and bash me you usual suspects, but I am laughing at you and your foolhearted bashing and insulting. You’re just pouring more gasoline on the fire that is consuming your form of racing. You’ve made your bed, now you have to lay in it!”

I wish he would be more specific about people who make his racing experiences less fulfilling. I have attended NASCAR races and have never once pointed and laughed at anyone. The person making these remarks also claims to have been a Marine. If that is the case could he not rapidly take care of ‘jerks?’ Would his skin not be thicker? No worries. He has proven he has no credibility when it comes to facts so why would his opinion be taken seriously by anyone except to point out facts in the interest of truth?

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14 Comments »

  1. It’s funny, I saw a link to that IBJ article this morning on a racing forum, and commented on it. Then I wondered if you would do a blog entry on it. It’s funny how you are obsessed with a certain poster over at a NASCAR-centric niche site. Wasn’t it your comments about him on another forum the reason you were banned from a NASCAR-centric niche site? Something about wishing for him to have a fatal heart attack or to be in a small plane crash? You are a pretty pathetic individual.

    Editor’s Note: Speaking of obsessed…

    Actually, the supposed commentary your vivid imagination has constructed did not occur anywhere near a NASCAR-centric niche site. As for pathetic, if you are so chagrined by my supposedly outrageous antics, why on earth are you my most frequent comment contributor? That seems to reek of, well, hypocrisy. As for getting shut out of a NASCAR-centric niche site, that is true. Turns out some can’t handle the truth. Being primarily Republican, their solution is to silence any dissension. It happens. Their loss. Have you noticed how dead such sites are when they pull that nonsense? It is amusing. Hey, thanks again for being such a loyal fan.

    Comment by TroyM — February 5, 2010 @ 2:57 am | Reply

    • “Being primarily Republican, their solution is to silence any dissension…”

      Defender, I think political correctness comes from the democrat left….

      Comment by Bob F. — February 10, 2010 @ 10:56 pm | Reply

  2. Great to see your picture finally, Defender. I was always wondering what you looked like.

    The only person who has proven to have no credibility in regard to facts, is YOU. It’s always interesting to read your columns/diatribes, as every one of them is you digging yourself into an even deeper hole every time out. Keep the mediocrity coming, Defender. Oh, btw, when you get to talk to Randy Bernard, please tell him about the fact that you’ve been banned from every message board in the world for your vitriolic-hateful, insensitive, racist, diatribes. I’m sure you’ll mention that to him, won’t you?

    Editor’s Note: If I amount to so little, what keeps you kids coming back day after day to try and shout me down with childish insults? This blogging stuff certainly is a barrel of laughs…and not because of much I write, but the over the top knee jerking that follows. I have got to hand it to you. I am entertained. Now then…hows about at least thinking about keeping commentary to the topic? You know, as any actual adult would.

    Comment by Thesmartestguyintheroom — February 5, 2010 @ 3:06 am | Reply

  3. This topic is quite the bore and has been beaten into obliteration.

    Who cares?

    Apparently only you.

    sux 2 b u

    🙂

    Kimi Raikkonen is more interesting than one of your topics.

    Excuse me, my Nazi mistresses are awaiting my return.

    ~toodles~

    Max

    Comment by Max Hardcore — February 5, 2010 @ 3:55 am | Reply

  4. (Insert Colin Powell Image Here)

    Defender, why do you bother to keep blogging? Nobody actually puts any credence in what you say, they just read your blogs to laugh at you and all of the bullshit you write. Now that your man-crush Tony is gone, do you really have the need to keep typing this garbage?

    Other than some pilot-fish named Mike Miller that hangs on your every word….. you really don’t have anybody that agrees with you. On the contrary everybody thinks you are a jackass (even longtime IRL and Tony Supporters).

    Instead of spending so much time “blogging” and continuing to make a fool out of yourself, while don’t you spend all of this free time jogging or hitting the gym….that way if there ever comes a time for you to wear that fire suit again you won’t have to worry about getting burned on your back due to “Fat Guy in Little Coat” syndrome.

    Editor’s Note: I keep blogging because, as evidenced by the hit count and the amount of mostly inane commentary, I have quite the following. Tell me, will you ever gain sufficient maturity to actually comment on the topic of the blogs, or is your deal just 2nd grade playground stuff? A man can dream.

    Comment by Serg — February 5, 2010 @ 5:12 am | Reply

  5. Earl and Bubba are quietly sitting in a boat fishing, chewing
    tobacco and drinking beer when suddenly Bubba says,

    “Think I’m gonna divorce the wife – she ain’t spoke to
    me in over 2 months.”

    Earl spits overboard, takes a long, slow sip of beer and says,………..

    “Better think it over……………women like that are hard to find”

    Comment by RiMshOt — February 5, 2010 @ 6:25 am | Reply

  6. Your best to date!

    Comment by Mark — February 5, 2010 @ 7:45 am | Reply

  7. Extreme relevance has a way of generating extreme negative reaction. My advice to these people is to find something they like and follow it rather than finding something they hate and dwelling on it. Some may claim they hate IndyCar but really like it. And those types are out there, although you’d never know it when you read their words.

    “them boys is lyin”

    Comment by Mike Miller — February 5, 2010 @ 1:18 pm | Reply

  8. Defender,

    stay on topic. nascar aint the topic boy. IIRL is. with a new greenhorn leader-schnitzel at the helm, who probably still gets lost in the office corridors, you’d think your get a little D sporty over him and all the versus value this bull by the horns kinda dude brings to the ring. instead you choose to rehash an old personal grudge with a semi psychotic ex military hillbilly that lives in a shed in the carolina hills and spends his days on right wing websites.

    who gives a rats tail about the fLEEcing of America. dude will eventually die of a self induced high blood pressure related myocardial infarction from too many filterless heaters and years of ingesting gallons of gas station coffee. the funeral will be sparsely attended and the moss will grow over the gravemarker made out of wood with his named carved in the wood for eternity with his old trusty wood burning kit he got in 4th grade.

    Lets talk about IIRL positives and key metrics. Lets talk Danica and Brazil and a new chassis to go with new engine specs.

    Let’s talk racing boys……….boogity, boogity, boogity 🙂

    Contra Puntal

    Comment by CP — February 5, 2010 @ 2:35 pm | Reply

  9. Defender’s blogs are like an Augur, an automatic prediction pipeline that integrates major surface prediction algorithms and enables comparative analysis, classification and visualization for gram-positive bacteria on a genomic scale.

    We have a find selection of bacteria assembled for observation here: message board bottom feeding, blog polluting, buzz kill, subhuman and or neolithic rational, that has no constructive purpose in a productive world.

    Comment by Mike Miller — February 5, 2010 @ 3:20 pm | Reply

  10. Mike Miller ….doodsicle,

    1. speak english instead of babblefish

    2. what relation are you to defender? why do you feel the need to defend the almighty defender?

    It’s odd……….and uncomfortable. (unless both of you have that arrangement, and not that there’s anything wrong with that, it’s just not necessarily for me, but there is some merit to “don’t ask, don’t tell, so I’m good with whatever it is that you two have got going there, I guess)

    Frankie says RELAX….

    (it’s just racing)

    Frankie 😉 from Hollywood

    Editor’s Note: Is it really that difficult to actually keep comments confined to the topic?

    Comment by Frankie — February 5, 2010 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

  11. Since we aare talking NASCAR today then lets talk Danica today. After all she got her root in Indycar and it thrust her to national prominence. She certainly has earned her nicely maintained racing stripe since then.
    She’s not taking the backdoor to the big show either. She’s coming in the front screaming for all to hear her little thang….”I HAVE ARRIVED”.
    For whatever it’s worth, I bet she’s takes more than a few of the good ole boys down this weekend.

    Yep, IRL product, Danica Patrick is gonna eat up Nascar like a hungry little beaver gnaws and swallows a giant hard wood.

    You go girl!

    iNDyGiRL

    Comment by Shannon Simmons — February 5, 2010 @ 9:51 pm | Reply

  12. She will fail in ARCA and NASCAR. I find it funny that the most over88ated driver in NASCAR has signed the most overrated driver in the USA to pilot is Nationwide car.

    Comment by hockey77 — February 6, 2010 @ 2:34 am | Reply

  13. One of the best races in this state is when ARCA races at the the Salem Speedway and they do it twice a year. Maybe Danica will show up there. It would be excellent practice for Bristol.

    Comment by 3andOUT — February 6, 2010 @ 2:41 am | Reply


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