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February 22, 2010

NASCAR’s Lousy Attendance: Is That Tony’s Fault Too?

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 2:11 am

I am sure the weather will get pegged as the cause, but that has never been accepted as a valid reason for the IRL. So it must be something else.

There is mystery in wondering where all those who normally attend NASCAR races went. There was more orange and yellow visible at Fontana on Sunday than on

an exterior paint job of about any McDonalds. California hero Jimmie Johnson took the checkers in front of an IRL-sized crowd. The big news of the weekend was Danica finishing toward the back of the b-team event.

NASCAR really ought to dump one race from any track that has two and distribute them to tracks that deserve one. Kentucky comes to mind immediately. It will be decades before Denver NIMBYs ever allow a track any closer than Limon, so why not use Pikes Peak? I wonder how long we will see NASCAR’s race attendance and TV ratings plummet before they turn it around? The race itself at Fontana was not bad.

Las Vegas is next. Wouldn’t it be great to see the Indy Cars back at both those tracks? If Bruton Smith gets his way Indy Cars will race on the Vegas oval again. That cannot happen quickly enough.

This past week saw a lot of negative commentary about the Delta Wing concept. Most fans dislike it. Owners, however, rarely give a damn about what fans think and keep promoting it as the greatest thing since turbochargers and temporary street circuits. There is really no mystery about what will happen in 2012. We can only hope they make it look less cartoonish.



  1. It’s laughable that you call that an “IRL sized crowd” If that many people ever showed up to an IRL race at California, you bootlickers would be crowing about the success of the event.

    Editor’s Note: Well that did not take long, and it fits the script perfectly:

    1. Attempt to divert the topic away from what is actually being discussed to a slam of the IRL.
    2. Call actual racing fans a name a second grader would.

    Suggestion: Learn how to read, then attempt to grasp what you have read.

    Comment by TroyM — February 22, 2010 @ 2:37 am | Reply

  2. darrell….errr, defender, you must have some closet passion for nascar. you always blogurgitate about it. spare us the wasted clicks, son. it is what it is. your most feared enemy. post about things that you know all too well. dismal failures and repeated disappointments in the IRL. Certainly there is enough poop du jour in that closet to keep your pudgy little digits busy enough, and keep yourself “on topic”.

    we come here to read about the IRL. you writing about nascar is parallel to the former self proclaimed, chumpcar loser emeritus, pat ringley – the papertard with a hard card, adopting the IRL and relocating to crackforum, after paulie the pimp genitaloser, kevin kervorkian kalkhoven and gerry noforesyte, drove the worlds premier racing series(CCWS)into a bridge abutment at such a high rate of speed that it would have made Henri Paul proud.

    tell us about your conversations with wrangler randy the rodeo clown and the ratings lasso he’s gonna throw at versus. Enquiring paper minds want to know.

    Sincerely, Randy Hearst

    Editor’s Note: A new day, a new identity. Only with the same mental and emotional retardation that renders the same vulgar contributions meaningless, day after day. I am going to begin referring to you as one of the numbers in your IP, which does not change. From this day forward, you will be referred to as ‘Ol 157. Or, you could do the fine readers of this blog a favor and find something else to do with your time. Most of them would thank you.

    Comment by 'Ol 157 — February 22, 2010 @ 5:23 am | Reply

  3. Las Vegas, attendance there was as bad as it was for the races held in New Hampshire, the fans will not support open wheel racing on either of these two tracks, the only way I see open wheel racing returning to Las Vegas would be if they raced for a percentage of the gate along with the sanction fee being a percentage of the gate, the teams would pay more for their entries than the purse would be, the winner would be lucky to receive $500.00.

    They do need to return to Charlotte, Nashville and Pikes Peak, Pikes Peak was just starting to draw a decent crowd plus they did have some good racing there, Phoenix will not support open wheel, if they don’t start having 26 / 28 cars for each race, they should make plans to follow Circuit City. Open Wheel racing will become club racing on road courses.

    Comment by rosco — February 22, 2010 @ 7:35 am | Reply

  4. Bruton Smith wants IndyCar at his tracks. Rosco, there us no doubt he has more knowledge of these matters then you and I combined and then some..lots!!

    I see no reason why IndyCar can’t make a return to Vegas. With promotion, anything is possible. Club racing on road courses,, hardly. Think positive.
    Pikes Peak, Charlotte and New Hampshire should be added back on the schedule. I’m sure Randy Bernard will get an earfull from Bruton.

    Comment by Mike Miller — February 22, 2010 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

    • Gee Mike Miller, then why isn’t IndyCar at more of Bruton’s tracks since he wants them there? I’m guessing he is only offering so much in way of a sanction fee, or he is asking for a track rental fee. Of course, he is not being cheap, just offering fair value. From the IRL’s standpoint, more money can be made elsewhere.

      Comment by TroyM — February 23, 2010 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

    • Mike Miller did you attend any IRL race at New Hampshire, while the Modifieds did have a fair crowd, the IRL would be lucky to have had 2,000 in the stands

      Comment by rosco — February 27, 2010 @ 5:00 am | Reply

  5. Not surprised by the low attendance. How can something so boring as NAPCAR be as big as it is?

    If IndyCar selects the proper new chassis (Swift preferably) and makes it properly fast (see CART days), IndyCar’s popularity will continue to grow.

    Comment by Don — February 22, 2010 @ 9:10 pm | Reply

  6. OMG, Hell is freezing over. I’m AGREEING with you again, Defender.

    When ACS was designed, my understanding was that it was supposed to be like Michigan. Well, it is, except it’s more like Belle Isle than MIS. Auto Club Speedway isn’t an exciting race track at all, live in person or in video games. I know that there are some that would love to see this track on the IndyCar schedule, but I hope not. Even with an IndyCar race, it would be boring racing at ACS.

    Comment by Thesmartestguyintheroom — February 23, 2010 @ 3:19 pm | Reply

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