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March 4, 2010

Two More Racing Entities Check Out For Good

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 3:18 am

The economy (mostly) has claimed some more victims this week in the racing business. The ill-fated USF1 team never even turned a wheel. That is both sad and unsurprising. While it would be nice if some American-based entity was able to compete on that particular world stage, no one has come close in terms of funding or reality.

A lot of people would be happy simply to have a return of the US Grand Prix at IMS. Given the vig demanded by the Napoleonic Eccelstone narcissist and the fiscal conservatism of the head bean counter at IMS in cahoots with the family sisters desperately clutching their Chloe Paddingtons, that is about as likely as the Indiana Pacers making the playoffs in the next decade.

Word also arrived this week that one of the last vestiges of cart went teats up. That is actually sad because Atlantics in its various incarnations produced many great drivers and always seemed to provide quality racing. The cold hard reality, however, is that yet another road racing series with big aspirations failed. They chose not to align themselves with Indy Car and paid the price. That is a shame; it would have made a really nice rung on the ‘road to Indy’ ladder.

Predictably, a handful of really developmentally challenged hostile children blame the demise of Atlantics on the formation of the IRL. Would it not be swell if such people discovered how great it is to orient themselves in the same century as the rest of us who are not afflicted with that particular form of mental illness?

As a racing fan I hope everyone associated with the failed Atlantics series lands on their feet and keeps their talent in the sport in some way.



  1. We would have loved to have seen the USF1 team make it, but everything we’re hearing tells of horrible mismanagement in the team rather than a lack of funding, which is just a shame.
    Really feel bad for the guys at the factory who have not had the opportunity to show what they they could on the world scale – hopefully another opportunity arises for them in the future.

    As for Atlantics, it disappeared of the radar in Europe some years ago, but with fields of only 11 or 12, it was hardly the most surprising of outcomes. Could see an influx of Atlantics drivers into IndyLights, before it has been left rather late.

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman — March 4, 2010 @ 5:48 am | Reply

  2. Post-split, Atlantics had aligned themselves with IMSA. I doubt they were trying to oppose the IRL, but I can’t imagine that they would have been welcomed by it either.

    The best thing to happen would be for Star Mazda to be renamed Atlantics so the name can be preserved.

    Comment by hates crappies hates gomers — March 4, 2010 @ 7:38 am | Reply

  3. Do we really know that Atlantics decided not to align themselves with the IRL? Perhaps they didn’t have a choice. Why would the IRL want Atlantics when they already had Indy Lights? My impression at the time was that the IRL had said no to Atlantics being part of the unification deal. Just an impression, though… don’t really know that for a fact.

    Editor’s Note: it is important to note the politics of the way in which Atlantics was operated post-cart failure.

    Comment by Boo Boo — March 4, 2010 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  4. You’ve tapped into an appropriate theme to today’s topic.

    If I were a copy editor scripting a headline, it would probably read, ” Atlantics Sink into the Cold Dark Sea of Death Associated with the irl* “. Given that the irl* is the last morsel of rat poison vaguely associated with open wheel racing anymore, they must be appropriately blamed for the lastest casualty in Tony George’s brutal assault, fisting and dismemberment of the American Open Wheel Fanbase (figuratively speaking, of course, for the comprehension challenged, slope headed, window licking warriors on the IMS short tour bus).

    Glomming the Atlantics name for the sake of the IRL preserving their rich history, is akin to Defender toe tapping his neighbor in the bathroom at the Greyhound bus station just to get directions. It’s a time proven and very tired irl* trick to reincarnate old ideas and names, and like the D-toe tapper, it’s very transparent in its real intention.

    In reality, Silver Spoon Anton propped the water soaked, hollow rung, aluminum ladder to indy* up against a high voltage direct current power tranmission line. The road to open wheel racing obscurity starts and ends in speedway*, IN. – a city that stopped progression on 12/30/1959 and began accelerated decay in 1996.

    Not until the current irl* owners, a.k.a. ‘the psychiatric sisterhood of the unraveling brother in a cocaine trance’, sobered up themselves, could they begin to fix the plethora of problems brother tony plagued the princess’ palace with, through his problematic plundering of the grandfather’s personal property and prosperity.

    So here you sit,
    with a broken heart,
    awaiting a street race in Brazil,
    just like CART,
    lipstick on a pig,
    potholes on the road,
    run Tony Run,
    before they implode,
    days not months,
    the countdown has begun,
    not with a bang, but a whimper,
    the irl* is done,
    our prodigal son.

    ~Jim Wittycomb O’Reilly 🙂

    Editor’s Note: Well if it isn’t another pointless, obsessive comment by ‘ol 157 with his identity of the day. Hey listen, as folks like you and Kirby sit there and stew in your own unprofessional, childish bitterness, you might want to contemplate the reality that cart/champcar/atlantics are all dead by their own hand, and the Indy Car Series is beginning its 15th season of turning wheels with no end in sight. Now might be a good time to grow up and work toward the future instead of struggling to recapture the past. The entire sport would appreciate any maturity you can muster.

    Comment by JWO — March 4, 2010 @ 3:20 pm | Reply

    • Is ol 157 the same guy who started that ChampCar 2010 Website???

      Let’s hope the drivers and teams can find work in the IndyCar system of the ALMS.

      Comment by Mike Miller — March 4, 2010 @ 4:48 pm | Reply

  5. just curious then defender, and you too miller (probably are one of defender’s alternative monikers out here anyways), because obviously you have listened to the latest kirby piece, where he basically makes angstadt look like a fool, what do you have to say about it?

    pretty bad when you have the utterly stupid terry angstadt talk about the series promoting drivers who are not even driving in indy cars this upcoming year. mario moraes? he even admitted he had to look at a list to see who was driving this year in indy cars. even guys as staunch (blinded more like it) in your support of the irl as you two (???) are, surely you cannot even begin to defend his astonishing display of stupidity, and his lack of knowledge of the series that employs him.

    you really do begin to see exactly why the irl has been, and continues to be, a joke. the stupidity does not contain itself to just terry, it has been like a disease from day one, starting from the top. ever listen to a press conference with tony george? his speeches are legendary for being utterly disgraceful for the way in which he speaks. a man in his position, basically mumbling through interviews, using the words “uhhhh”, “ahhhh”, over and over again in response to any question, is astounding.

    yes defender, and mike miller (defender’s personal ball licker), the demise of open wheel racing can be laid square at the feet of tony george and his league.

    enjoy your indy cars, which are now basically a “niche” sport, right up there with transgendered midget bowling on a sunday afternoon. you two are a disgrace with your rants, thinking they actually have importance in any way with anyone.

    open wheel is dead. period. Paul Ishmynob

    Editor’s Note: Well, with as mature a presentation of the facts as you have presented them I suppose it is time for all of us to stop following the sport altogether. You know, since it’s dead and all.

    So let’s review…you are having angst and think the sport is dead because:

    -some former cart employee made an ass of himself on the Internet
    -Terry Angstadt spoke in somewhat out of touch buzzwords on the ex cart employees’ quaint little podcast
    -Tony George is not a good public speaker
    -Tony George, despite his stupidity, killed cart and the sport

    ….duly noted. Again. Thanks for sharing. Again. Hey, here’s an idea…why not suggest how to bring it back to life. LOL.

    Comment by Paul Ishmynob — March 4, 2010 @ 10:28 pm | Reply

  6. Wow, poetry- not your strong suit. Also, look up what “prodigal” means, because it’s certainly not what you think it means.

    Amazing to me that people who seek to have weak opinions result to crass vulgarity, but poetry?! LOL

    Defender, this is my first visit to your blog and I have to say I agree with you 100%. It’s time to live in the now. Many fans don’t remember what CART was, and it’s too late to change anything without the ol’ Wayback Machine.

    Comment by franchittilitter — March 11, 2010 @ 1:48 am | Reply

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