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March 15, 2010

IZOD Indy Car and Formula One: Is It Possible For Everyone To Come To Their Senses?

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 11:34 pm

The Indiana Business Journal reported today that IMS wants to bring F-1 back after the vacuous white-headed midget screwed it up for everyone with his little greed fit back in ’07. I believe that is a wise move by IMS, who regularly gave F-1 its biggest crowds ever until Michelin came in unprepared and caused the infamous ‘tyre’ farce of 2005. When it was time to renew, the vig Bernie wanted far exceeded any sort of logic or common sense, and Anton basically showed Mr. Eccelstone how to exit through the pagoda door without being hit on his pompous miniature arse.

Now, however, there is new blood at IMS. Belskus and crew know how to count beans really well, but fully understand the potential value of an F-1 return. Bernie has not yet croaked, so there is still the problem of attempting to negotiate with him. Good luck. On the other hand, despite claiming as recently as August, 2009 that F-1 would never again race at Indianapolis, the Napoleonic squirt told a European newspaper on Sunday that he would ‘like to get back there’ and possibly as early as 2011.

Bernie Plays With Schumacher's Johnson

Bernie continues to suffer from staggering arrogance when it comes to Indianapolis as a racing venue, calling those who used to show up for the USGP the ‘wrong crowd and the wrong people.’ Perhaps if he stayed in the city instead of going to Chicago he might begin to develop some basic understanding. I think I can understand part of his point; nearly three sides of the track are now surrounded by an increasingly expanding ghetto. Someone needs to claim eminent domain and run bulldozers in a huge area around primarily the 30th and the 16th Street sides of the track and clean up/out the entire vicinity. There are plenty of other dilapidated ratholes where such residents can be relocated then allow their newly acquired properties to fall completely apart. You can’t maintain a facility with world class status plopped into a damned slum. He wouldn’t stay there anyway. Perhaps he could be helicoptered to the brand new J.W. that will be open before long.

I attended all eight IMS USGPs and met some fine people from all over the world (as well as some amusing drunk hypocrites jacked up on cart who often claimed they would never spend a dime at IMS again but were plopped right there in J Stand every year). I enjoyed each event except 2005 and would go back in a heartbeat. Hopefully Bernie either retires or negotiates with sense. It would be really neat to have F-1 be a part of the 2011 centennial year celebrations. As an added bonus they got rid of the ‘Mickey Mouse’ section and made not running through the oval turn one a viable option. I say bring ‘em back. I’ll renew my ducats.

Having an entity take its head out of its arse is not unprecedented; DirecTV put Versus back on an easily accessible tier today.



  1. Hopefully Bernie Retires soon. Strangely, I’ve heard Baltimore as the likely place of USGP’s return, possibly with an Indycar race run before hand… Indy gave huge crowds for F1, Unlike Istanbul, which was under 40,000 for a world racing series, and is a major place for some of the sponsors. Unfortently, with the sanctioning fee required, I’m not sure if IMS would want to pay that, it’s pretty ridiculous. But I really want USGP to return, and Indy’s a great place for that.

    Comment by Dylan — March 16, 2010 @ 12:39 am | Reply

  2. It would be great if F1 went back to the US – and about time too. After 5 years, I think everyone in the sport is still deeply embarrassed by the 2005 fiasco, but now that Mosley has been retired, one of the obstacles has been removed from the sport. If anything, the US Grand Prix should be one of the protected races along side Monaco, Italy, Britain and Germany; although France is also supposed to be on that list.

    Apart from that F1 will go where the money is, hence the races at the likes of Valencia, Turkey, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Singapore – with South Korea, India and Russia coming soon. If Bernie can find a way to whip more money off of the CVC loan, then F1 will probably be there.

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman — March 16, 2010 @ 12:48 am | Reply

  3. F1 certainly is not what it once was….
    really ain’t worth half the dollars that Bernie wants.

    Comment by tim nothhelfer — March 16, 2010 @ 1:22 am | Reply

  4. “vacuous white-headed midget”

    Thanks. I enjoyed that immensely.

    Comment by Boo Boo — March 16, 2010 @ 2:07 am | Reply

  5. How many actual passes during competition have you witnessed during the F1 races at Indianapolis?

    Editor’s Note: As any F-1 snob will constantly remind you, that’s not the point. 😉

    Comment by rosco — March 16, 2010 @ 6:01 am | Reply

    • I attended an F1 race here in Phoenix, I had some of the best seats that money could buy, I sat there all day Saturday and Sunday, guess what. I did see a car get passed after he spun out and was sitting there waiting for the service truck, this was during warm up on Saturday. I did attend another F1 race in Indianapolis, the thrilling thing there was the way some of the drivers did apply the power leaving a turn and listening to the gears shift, bang, bang,there was a pass for the lead on final pal when the leader slowed so his teammate could come across the finish line side by side, only problem was the team mate went for the win.

      I will agree that if you want a party atmosphere, you do get that when F1 is in town, it’s a shame that the fans can’t get a little closer to the teams before the race. I did get to see Sena and Prost race, they were the real deal.

      Comment by rosco — March 17, 2010 @ 8:42 pm | Reply

  6. Izod Indy Car and F-1. Nine races a year you can’t even tell them apart.

    Keep F-1 but give me back my American open wheel oval racing.

    We don’t need two F-1 leagues.

    Comment by Bob F. — March 16, 2010 @ 1:03 pm | Reply

  7. I’d love to see F1 back at The Speedway, but it’s just not worth the extortionist dollars that Bernie wants. I say that Belskus and the crew should either wait it out until the little two-faced personification of greed kicks off (he turns 80 this October), or wait until Bernie comes back with terms that actually make sense. Indy is the only venue in the States that makes any sense at all. Most cities (and this most certainly includes Baltimore) are far too broke to put together a street circuit AND pay Bernie’s sanctioning fee. To my knowledge, no circuit in the US other than Indy is up to a full FIA-approved race rating (Barber is supposedly approved for testing only). That leaves exactly one option. Bernie can come play here, or continue to throw away the US as a huge potential source of revenue. It’s his choice.

    Comment by The Speedgeek — March 16, 2010 @ 2:41 pm | Reply

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