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June 9, 2010

Let’s Open The Indy Car Suggestion Box!

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 12:30 am

Indy Car ideas for future consideration:

Sparkling IMS Facilities in 2010

-Get rid of the ‘push to pass’ gimmick. If /when we get more than one manufacturer for engines and chassis, we probably will not need it anyway. Contrived racing stinks.

-Don’t ever close the pits unless the lane is blocked. We’re all tired of everyone pitting under yellow.

-Do not wait any longer than 2012 for a new package. You will kill your business if you do.

-If it is found that deficiencies of the safety crew are the direct result of cost cutting in terms of staff, whoever made the decision should be the next person canned.

-Graham Rahal and RHR need to be in the series. Then again so do Tomas Scheckter and a host of other deserving (based on talent) drivers. We went through this exact same nonsense in the late 80s and early 90s with cart, and here we go again.

-Put as much enthusiasm and support behind ovals as you do around idiotic street circuits.

-When Justice approves the Comcast takeover of NBC, get moving.

Short and sweet. These items seem important today.



  1. Agree with all, except push to pass. Yes, I hope the new rules make p2p unnecessary… but to my eyes it is making the racing a little better on the ovals.

    Marco and TK’s brilliant runs at Indy probably don’t happen without push to pass.

    I think you keep it for now. I’m not sure P2P helps on every race course, but I thought that both Indy and Texas were miles better than last year’s events in terms of action.

    Comment by Demond Sanders — June 9, 2010 @ 1:01 am | Reply

  2. Less similar ovals. More diverse street/road courses, Get the Mile back. Get green. Stay fast. Keep diverse talent. Teach the drivers to have a personality. Recurit Red Bull to have a team at all cost.

    Comment by mshedden — June 9, 2010 @ 3:41 am | Reply

    • I would also add a move to urban markets. Whether through building tracks or street courses urban areas are untapped. Given the love for soccer showing up in these areas it is clear they can embrace a diverse product (and athletes), with other world origins (F1 like), with some patience for the beauty of skill and time (Street/Road courses that don’t need to be side by side non-stop action).

      Comment by mshedden — June 9, 2010 @ 7:31 pm | Reply

  3. Please give us new cars by 2012 and please, do not make the Delta Wing the ONLY choice.

    Also, “MORE OVALtine PLEASE!!!!!

    Comment by M. Miller — June 9, 2010 @ 12:30 pm | Reply

  4. American Drivers who speak American English (not the Kings English or something similar)

    A chance to hear “Thats a new track record” i.e. speed up the cars. I think this is critical.

    More ovals

    Keep the cars true open wheel

    No “car of tomorrow” concept. Allow various chassis, engines, and make room for innovation

    Agree with keeping the pits open

    Versus, trash the national flag thing behind the drivers names during your broadcasts. It’s only hurting the IRL. This is not F1 and Europe.

    Comment by Bob F. — June 9, 2010 @ 1:47 pm | Reply

    • Wow – you really do a big problem with us non-American’s, don’t you? I think maybe I’ll just give up the English language altogether and just make loud grunting sounds instead.

      Comment by Leigh O'Gorman — June 9, 2010 @ 6:10 pm | Reply

      • Yes, its called being a Patriot. You Europeans can grunt all you want.

        Comment by Bob F. — June 9, 2010 @ 8:47 pm

      • Knocking people from other countries because they’re foreign is not patriotism and never has been. It’s sad and quite pathetic, but patriotic? No.

        Comment by Leigh O'Gorman — June 10, 2010 @ 6:21 am

  5. I agree with you, Bob F., except going faster at Indy would not be a good idea. 1. The “G” forces would cause a driver blackout, as was almost the case when CART tried a race at TMS some years ago. 2. Driver reaction time would be considerably lessened in the event of trouble. 3. Survival of a accident at that 250 mph that some people seemed enamoured of would also be considerably lessened. I’m for many changes for IndyCar and IMS, but greater speeds is not one of them. If you don’t agree Bob, I’d like to hear why. Maybe this is education time for me.

    Comment by DOUG — June 9, 2010 @ 5:20 pm | Reply

    • Indy is about speed. It always has been. Since the beginning. That is what makes it unique and different from Nascar.

      I don’t think the split hurt Indy and Indy racing as much as slowing the cars down. There is no maximum speed at Indy or Texas or anywhere else. That is part of the technology angle to Indy Car racing, to go faster and to handle the higher speeds. To push the limits.

      Until we get back to that, Indy car racing will not be what it was. My thoughts anyway.

      Comment by Bob F. — June 9, 2010 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  6. Did it ever occur to some of you that a lot of non-Americans actually WANT to race in this series? They’ve got just as much right to run here as anybody. Today the sport is sponsor driven. Its very existence is because of people who bring money to the sport. Like it or not, that’s how it is. Hopefully future cost containment will bring more affordability to the sport. Then maybe all the Americans who ‘deserve’ rides will get hired. It would be nice if more American corporations would pony up and sponsor some American drivers, but since bitter ‘fans’ and a biased media have stunk up the joint for everyone, I don’t see it happening just yet.

    Comment by Race Fan — June 10, 2010 @ 12:10 am | Reply

    • Fact is all of the foreign drivers are hurting the series and is part of why Indy Car has gone into decline. If that is your thing, F1 is there for you. An international road racing league does nothing for me and apparently isn’t that popular among most Americans. I believe that has to be changed for Indy Car racing to bounce back. A few foreign drivers have long been part of it. 80-90% of the drivers, sorry it won’t work.

      Comment by Bob F. — June 10, 2010 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

  7. I agree, get rid of the gimmicks, lets start racing on the track, no more half ass decisions by some officials, have the cars race the advertised distance under green flag racing, do not count the yellow flag laps, do not allow pit stops under a yellow flag, pit stops allowed only during green flag racing.

    You do not want to hear this, Barnhart needs to go away, he is a cancer on the series, the first major change that Ropin Randy makes should be replacing Barnhart, he was hired to be the future superintendent of the Speedway, before he learned where everything was located, he was promoted to Indy Racing League management. Did you ever see a car blacked flagged for blocking in the 60’s 70’s or 80’s, blocking was not invented by the IRL drivers, it’s been a part of auto racing from the get go, Barnhart is not God, he just thinks he is.

    Comment by rosco — June 10, 2010 @ 7:01 am | Reply

  8. I know that you loath Robin Miller but firing Barnhart, who can get back his old job cleaning up the IMS, and hiring Tony Cotman to run race control is an obvious decision that the league needs to make to end the inconsistency in officiating…

    Comment by Neil Rubin — June 12, 2010 @ 11:24 pm | Reply

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