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October 20, 2011

Help Prevent The Systematic Destruction of Indy Car

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 12:40 am

Here are suggestions for Indy Car for 2012:

-Figure out a way to improve catch fencing so they do not become death traps when freak accidents cause cars to go airborne. Install the system at Indianapolis, then wait for NASCAR to install the system at their tracks and take credit for it.

-Encourage Indy Car drivers openly condemning ovals to drive somewhere else besides Indy Cars. The list of qualified drivers willing to tackle any oval in an Indy Car is longer than there are seats. I encourage the whiniest of the whining to relinquish their rides to drivers who actually want to race. There are plenty of potential American stars ready, willing and able to accept the challenge.

-Instruct existing second guessing stars to support the series or leave.

When Indy Car rescued the remnants of cart and graciously called it ‘unification’ the devolution of a great series centered around oval racing began in earnest. The very foundation of Indy Car racing is being dismantled right before our eyes.

The cause is not helped by a colossally inept media hell bent on assessing blame. This is especially contemptible considering the media screaming the loudest otherwise completely ignore Indy Car.

It is time to take a stand. What we are seeing is not acceptable.



  1. I know that if Dario does leave the series will not miss him, He is a good driver with top of line equipment, there are maybe 10 / 12 very good drivers that want to race only problem is the owners want to be paid for the seat. With the new car and maybe new tires we will see maybe 6 / 8 drivers leave that would make myself very happy, because they really do not belong in the series, When we are able to watch the cars lift and brake in every turn, then we will see some very good racing with drivers that really want to race.

    Comment by rosco — October 20, 2011 @ 3:07 am | Reply

  2. Here are a few other suggestions:
    1. Make President Obama the Grand Marshall of the Daytona 500. (Just kidding.)
    2. SInce his team is lacking a driver (and he’s turning most of the race team business over to son Larry,) make A. J. Foyt ‘Commisionner of INDYCAR’. Don’t like wishy-washy race control? Ol’ Super Tex will take a wrench to that and POUND on it til it works. Don’t want to answer that black flag? Wellll, we’ll have “the Commish” “work” on your laptops and bitch-slap your crew chief.
    3. To the members of the media: Don’t want to send a reporter to cover Barber? FIne, there goes your credential for Indianapolis. Don’t want to go to Edmonton? That’s OK, guess we won’t see you at Long Beach.
    Look, I understand a paper not wanting to spend the money to send someone to Japan, but any domestic race should have full media coverage. No picking and choosing. THEN if they want to complain, maybe they’ll have a CLUE what they’re talking about.
    4. Randy Bernard: Look we,KNOW that the events of Sunday were very upsetting and ruined your big promotion at Vegas, but please, don’t bail on LVMS and leave the track management holding the ball. All that happens when you do that is they set the agenda, and that may not be in the sport’s best interests. You’ve gone silent since Sunday’s announcement. At least put a press release or two out there.
    5. Assuming Paul Tracy retires, please hire him for BOTH Versus and ABC broadcast teams. (ABC, IF you’ll get Cheever to do ALL your races, we’ll let you off the hook on PT.) At least he has a pulse. Marty Reid, please continue to perform like the late Sid Collins. You kept everything together on Sunday, so try to adopt this series as your own. Too often, I’ve felt that you were doing INDYCAR just for a paycheck between NNS races. Make us WANT to hear your voice and your input on all the telecasts. Most importantly, do your homework!
    6. PLEASE! At least one more 500 miler, like maybe Labor Day to close the season. Double points for both 500’s. Start the season in February/March and end it Labor Day weekend.

    Comment by SkipinSC — October 20, 2011 @ 3:26 am | Reply

  3. Oh comon Defender, Nascar invented the air they fill tires with didn’t they? LOL

    Comment by Bill — October 20, 2011 @ 3:43 am | Reply

  4. Defender, you really just don’t get it, do you? Your recolection of the events of the previous years is as miserable as Danica’s driving skills.

    How ’bout we bring back Tony George? He will save IndyCar! Oh wait, he is the one that “rescued the remnants of cart and graciously called it ‘unification.'”

    It is Tony George’s fault then, had he not “rescued the remnants of cart” IndyCar would be thriving. Wait, but if IndyCar didn’t need CART then why did he pursue a “unification?”

    Maybe IndyCar was just as bad off as CART was. Sure, CART went bankrupt TWICE. But had it not been for the Hulman George bank account IndyCar would have gone bankrupt TRHEE times. Hence the sacking of TG by his own family and the hiring of Randy B.

    Boy, round and round this thing goes. Just like a Dallara on an oval.

    Now the ovals are threatened. Oh the humanity!

    (more to come)

    Comment by Gary — October 20, 2011 @ 5:32 am | Reply

  5. It does not help when you have people inside the sport like Robin Miller writing articles about “Oval Madness”. Ovals are under attack for two reasons. One is the ride buying. These foreign drivers have precious little experience on ovals. What happened at Las Vegas was going to happen sometime. These foreigners are scared to death of ovals. They should be with as little experience on them as they have. Blame the owners for this.

    Second, the league has become a street course league. Many who like ovals went two plus months between oval races. That is not the way to build a fan base. Why should we have expected the average or new fan to wait around for Indycar to get to another oval race.

    Bottom line, the government money for street courses is the easy money right now. But long term, this is a big mistake. And its not just the oval tracks. Next year there will only be three true road courses on the schedule, and they are really motorcycle tracks. The Indy Racing league has become like the demolition derby at the county fair.

    The turnaround begins with hiring American drivers with oval experience. If Kyle Larson goes to Nascar…..

    Comment by Bob F. — October 20, 2011 @ 1:48 pm | Reply

    • I’ve got to second that demolition derby comment Bob. A lot of the promotion for the last race was focused on the crashes. Here’s what Danica had to say after practice #1, “The race is going to be crazy and the crashes will be spectacular.”

      When did this sport move away from showcasing driver talent in exotic racing machines to showcasing spectacular crashes? I think it’s this whole shift in philosophy over the last few years that’s really destroying the sport.

      Editor’s Note: I believe supposition about ‘crashes being promoted’ is nothing more than selective second guessing, and prmotes the sordid agenda some have about ‘IRL’ and ‘pack racing.’ The Vegas promotion centered more around the ‘big event’ nature of the season closer and beat the hell out of any sort of ‘promotion’ ever run for, say, Homestead.

      Comment by Jacob — October 21, 2011 @ 6:48 am | Reply

    • Why would Kyle Larson want to run at a race track like Vegas in an open top Indycar when he can make more money and worry far less about getting killed running a stock car there?

      Editor’s Note: Because he is an oval racer and likes Indy Cars?

      Comment by throw some ds on that b!tch — October 21, 2011 @ 8:25 am | Reply

      • I bet he likes getting paid more, not getting killed, and still running ovals in stock cars. Which is what he said, of course.

        Comment by throw some ds on that b!tch — October 23, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

  6. IndyCar’s* current modus operandi is ‘entertainment’ in a Circus Maximus kind of way. Warriors, gladiators fighting it out to the death on an oval at 220 mph in wheel to wheel excitement. But is it a competition of skill or bravery?

    There is a difference between entertainment and entertaining, but also between entertainment and competition. I want my racing to be entertaining, but I want the entertainment to come from the cold hard battle of competition, not gimmicks, contrived equality, or the bravado of foot to the floor, 100% throttle 100% of the time wheel banging with the prospect of ‘The Big Crash’. Note what the ABC announcers said as the crash began. It wasn’t “Trouble” or “Oh, no” it was “Here we go” as in “Here we go, we knew it was going to happen and it’s what we were all waiting for.”

    Motor racing is dangerous. It doesn’t need to be made more so by desperately clinging to a faulty vision. It would be very wrong to compare Dan Wheldon with Ayrton Senna, but that Imola weekend was a watershed moment for Formula 1, where the powers that be took a major step back and looked at many different aspects of the sport. Wheldon’s death needs to be the same.

    It’s time for IndyCar* to admit they were wrong and revamp everything. Eliminate mile and a half ovals designed for NASCAR. Go back to the drawing boards for a new car, one that looks good, doesn’t launch itself into orbit or fracture spines. Eliminate the contrived excitement of the pack mentality. Give the cars enough horsepower with less downforce so that throttle modulation and driving skill determine who makes it through the corners instead of planting your foot to the floor and praying you don’t get caught up in someone else’s mistake.

    Honour Dan Wheldon’s memory by doing something difficult, like making major changes, even if it means reducing or eliminating next year’s schedule.

    Taking the easy way out like naming the new car or a trophy after Wheldon will make his death as meaningless as Scott Brayton’s, Tony Renna’s or Paul Dana’s.

    Editor’s Note: Mile and a half ovals have a definitive place in Indy Car, and losing them would chip away more of its soul. No thanks. Close racing is good. As the equipment and safety features evolve, those who are worried almost exclusively about these types of venues will have less to worry about. In the meantime the best option I can think of is not to watch. Simple.

    Comment by Gary — October 22, 2011 @ 5:36 pm | Reply

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