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August 9, 2013

What Happens Next May At The Indy 500

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 12:51 pm

Jim Carrey and Jeff DanielsOne of the obsessed kids is floating a rumor that IndyCar is pondering having an IndyCar race on the IMS road course early in May. It seems far-fetched so that must mean IMS is actually considering it. I am sure they have already prepared bullet points and twitter doo-hickeys and such to justify it; e.g., it brings back the month of May, etc., and all that outside research by people who have probably never even attended a race at Indy much less anyplace else probably says it’s a swell idea.

If Miles and crew should ever decide to ground themselves in reality and use actual sense they might want to reconsider any such notion. For starters, the entire point of every IndyCar season and indeed the existence of the series is the Indianapolis 500, which has been diluted and gutted enough as it is. Adding a road race with the same cars in the same month seems foolish. It would not increase attendance for the 500. A road race probably would not draw many fans early in the month either. At best it would alienate loyal fans, particularly if they are forced to pay more for ill-advised stunts.

Great Little OvalFor the past few years one of the most horrible parts of IndyCar’s schedule is not having an oval race before the 500 and/or having a temporary circuit race well outside the country. Is it not important to try and build momentum into May? Why not schedule an oval race before Indy? Phoenix would be ideal. Perhaps even Kentucky. If I was running the show I would run an early May race outside Memphis on the underutilized track down there and tie it in somehow with Memphis in May and a lead-in to the 500. One entertainment venue that, unlike auto racing, is enjoying tremendous growth is the BBQ cook-off. Memphis has most of May locked up with their legendary party, but not all of it. IMS could guarantee a multi-day party and lots of attendance with a complementary event partner. That is a better idea than running IndyCars on the road course in May.

Whenever the 2014 schedule is announced I hope that Miles and crew will have come to their senses.

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9 Comments »

  1. The current managment at IMS is making some terrible decisions. I don’t know if it was the advisory group or not. For the Brickyard I had season tickets for all 20 years of the race. I sit in Stand A right across from Gasoline Alley so I have always loved my tickets. I received a letter two days before this years race telling me that Stand A along with the Southwest Vista and another stand (H?) were being revised to a family section with festival seating, “so you can get a perspective from three sections.” Bottom line was I lost the reserve seat tickets I had had for 20 years. Of course they offered to help me find new seating elsewhere if I wanted to keep reserved seats. Nice of them. I think I’ll pass. I’m sure with all these brilliant decisions they can make up for my puny 4 seats.

    This happened to me with the Indy 500 some years ago when the section I had season seats in were disassembled. But my seats were not as good as what I had for the Brickyard.

    Why is IMS determined to drive off their remaining fans? I also stuck with the speedway and the IRL though all the issues with the split. And the continued reduction of the Month of May. So now all of this.

    Can they really be this stupid? I’m afraid we suspect the answer.

    Comment by Bob F. — August 9, 2013 @ 1:12 pm | Reply

  2. Another road race – brilliant! At the Indy track no less. It would be like making the Yankees play cricket at the Stadium!

    Comment by PB2Y — August 9, 2013 @ 5:09 pm | Reply

  3. Oh Boy!!! I get all goose bumps thinking we are going to have another road race before Indy. Keep this up Indy Car and next year you probably play to empty seats and no TV audience. Boy …..When will these numnuts wake up and smell the coffee ??

    Comment by oldwrench — August 9, 2013 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  4. If a road race at Indy is an absolute must, how about we do that a week or two before the finale at Fontana and run the season until 9/15. The idea of doing this as an adjunct to the already diminished May festivities is ludicrous.

    Comment by SkipinSC — August 10, 2013 @ 1:05 am | Reply

  5. (Edited for literacy) They should run a double header on the road course just so you and (four year old level name calling) and (four year old level name calling) will have a cow. I hope it draws a lot just to drive some of you despicable “PLACE FANS” crazy. That is all you are, a “PLACE FAN”! You know nothing about racing otherwise. You must have (scatological reference) from having your head so far up the hg (scatological reference). This is too funny for words you (four year old level name calling)!!
    Editor’s Note: Nope. They have not yet shown any signs of actual maturity.

    Comment by Obsessed Crapper WIth a Juvenile Handle — August 11, 2013 @ 4:11 pm | Reply

  6. Pretty good to have ideas of grandeur, such as “If I was running the show”. Well, I hate to let you in on some cold, hard facts, but the series is not flush with cash right now, nor do they have sponsors knocking down the doors to hand them money. Television ratings and track attendance are all down, so the series is doing what pretty much what many others in all industries have to do when faced with serious troubles…they try anything and everything they can to survive.

    You want to run a race at Memphis? Who is going to pay ICS a decent sanction fee? Unless the series is basically willing to race their on their own dime, do their own promotions, etc;, no track is going to pay them to be there. It is really easy to sit there and say they should do this, they should do that, but unless you are footing the bill, try rooting yourself in reality for a change.

    As for IMS and the month of May, the family has done real well to ruin alot of the traditions and dull the once mighty grandeur of the race all by themselves. You don’t want anymore road races? Then show me an Indy Car Series that can run 9-10 ovals, with strong attendance and television ratings…have not seen that in years. Iowa, Milwaukee, even Texas, all looking pretty empty when the series runs there nowadays. You say IMS can guarantee Memphis lots of attendance, your own words, lol. BS. Indy Car has run at tracks like Long Beach, Toronto, Texas, Milwaukee, etc;, that use to be able to draw guaranteed big crowds, and we have all seen how fast they have ruined that. Again, easy to talk when you sit behind your keyboard and it is not your money on the line. There is a road track sitting empty at IMS, why not use it? Will it draw anything close to the big race itself…of course not, but the series can utilize something they paid millions for in the first place, and maybe make a little something for a change. They will not have to spend alot, seeing as they do not cut the grass, do any maintanence, of pay for a proper amount of staff to run the place nowadays anyways.

    And one more thing, I have attended many races at IMS, so your familiar crap about you can’t say anything because you have never attended a race at the place, holds no skin here.

    I suggest you get out of your “everything is alright” IMS-super fanboy mode, and ground yourself in reality as to the very real problems the series, and IMS and the Indy 500 face now.
    Editor’s Note: Congratulations on being long winded. I might suggest you work a little more diligently on your reading comprehension skills, which remain severely impaired.

    Comment by The Zohan — August 12, 2013 @ 1:46 am | Reply

  7. (Yet another illiterate obsessed crapper missive filled with unusual spelling and grade school taunting)

    Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — August 12, 2013 @ 3:33 am | Reply

  8. Zak Brown says the new USCR series has a highly sought after demographic as IMS contemplates replacing MotoGP. You have good reason to not want to dilute the Indy 500 brand further. ISC will get the MotoGP date and the many crossover fans sickened from the waffling direction of the Indycars. The noose is tightening on the Speedway, who’s falling for the NASCAR $$$. Three of the 5 races at the speedway will be NASCAR owned. And the Freedom 100 only has 9 cars or less in it. The enemy isn’t the fans, it’s the Speedway itself. Wake up dummy.
    Editor’s Note: There are only five or six crossover ‘fans’ sickened from the waffling direction of IndyCars. The same one that squat obsessively on message forums and blog comment sections always portending doom that never seems to occur. What does occur with startling regularity is the failure of road racing series in the United States that attempt to position themselves as ‘big time.’ Not one has ever made it long term. I seriously doubt a USCR series event would ever draw more than MotoGP. But good luck with that.

    Comment by Goron Liddy — August 12, 2013 @ 3:41 pm | Reply

  9. Dear Defender:

    I agree that a road race at IMS is a terrible idea, especially after having to sit through the 2002 F1 USGP (what a boring race) and yes, we definitely need an oval or two on the schedule prior to the 500 but we keep circling back to the same issue with this series and its brain dead leadership…how in the world can you demand a high sanctioning fee from the track owner or promoter if the series draws miniscule crowds to its oval events? I suggest that the series reduce or even waive these outrageous sanctioning fees in an effort to bring ovals back to the series and save what fans we have left before the Indy 500 becomes the only oval and Indy Car resembles Champ Car circa 2005 where Milwaukee was the lone oval in a schedule of road and street races.

    Comment by Neil Rubin — August 13, 2013 @ 7:55 pm | Reply


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