Disciple of INDYCAR Weblog

November 20, 2013

New IMS Video For Doug Boles

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 12:55 am

Mr. Boles has been all over social media lately trumpeting ever mile of the re-paving of the road course many love to hate. Good on him. IMS is a national treasure and parts of it are being badly neglected. Here is a short video submitted by a concerned fan that illustrates the amount of degradation in the only area visitors are allowed most days of the year

IMS Degradation

Mr. Boles, you are the caretaker of a historic site. Please take the responsibility seriously as did predecessors such as Tony Hulman, Clarence Cagle, Tony George, Joe Cloutier and others. The degree to which certain portions of the facility are being allowed to fall apart is repugnant.

Thank you.



  1. What is most pathetic is the fact that you have nothing better to do with your time and run over to IMS with your video camera.
    Editor’s Note: Wrong again, hater. I did not run over to IMS with my video camera but another like-minded fan did and I am grateful.

    Ever since your little hero Tony George was fired you and many of your fellow bootlickers have taken on the role of critic of IMS.
    Editor’s Note: If you kids continuously repeat the idiotic ‘Tony George was your hero’ line for fourteen years do you somehow stupidly believe it would become even remotely true? Your little group and its obsessions continues to astound adults. ‘Bootlickers?’ Still? Grow up.

    That parking lot looks pretty dated, my guess is it didn’t look so great in 2009 either, when Tony George was still in charge. I doubt you even bothered to care then.
    Editor’s Note: Actually in 2009 cracks were routinely patched and the lot was regularly sealed. I did notice then as well.

    Due to the poor financial condition Tony George put IMS in, there is likely little money available for the parking lot. Any money they have, they are trying to put it to use to increase revenue.
    Editor’s Note: LOL. Another Internet accountant/financial maven. You kids crack me up.

    Comment by TroyM — November 20, 2013 @ 2:08 am | Reply

  2. Lol. Do you really think he gives a (snip)insert bad word here(/snip) about this? They got much bigger problems than a broken parking lot and handrail.
    Editor’s Note: His actions clearly demonstrate he does not give much of a (snip)insert bad word here(/snip) about it, or at least what those of us who are concerned about it think, which is troubling. He is in charge of a national treasure and has taken his eyes off the very first thing visitors from around the globe encounter when visiting. Any real or perceived problems are one thing but you first impressions count. Boles is blowing that in favor of flowery videos of road course improvement few except self-congratulating executives believe is a good idea.

    Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — November 20, 2013 @ 4:14 am | Reply

  3. Your problem is that you think your opinion matters when it comes to how IMS is run.
    Editor’s Note: As a paying customer for fifty years it must. So should the opinions of every other paying customer. It is how successful businesses operate.

    Don’t you have more important things in your life to worry about or enjoy?
    That type of idiotic statement implies I am only concerned about this issue, which is laughable. There are far more things in life I worry about than not. But when I see a national treasure being neglected it is incumbent upon me to point it out.

    Obviously, they don’t care about your opinion, why continue to beat a dead horse?
    Editor’s Note: This particular horse is not dead. I want to see it improve every year as it did while Tony Hulman and Tony George were running the show.

    Comment by TroyM — November 20, 2013 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

    • I see you are still missing your hero Tony.
      Editor’s Note: I see you still have not learned the first thing about reading comprehension.

      How hard is it for you to understand that Tony George put IMS in the poor financial shape it is in today? That poor shape likely has a lot to do with the condition of the place, they simply don’t have the money available. I know it angers you that they spent so much on the road course, but they are trying to increase revenue of the place.
      Editor’s Note: How hard is it for you to understand that squatting, obsessed children on the Internet don’t really have the first clue about the financial situations of private companies and that your kind is never taken seriously?

      Comment by TroyM — November 21, 2013 @ 2:56 am | Reply

      • Wasnt it Fred Nation told the IBJ they spent 600 million since the start of the IRL and still never made a single cent profit? Yeah, it was.
        Editor’s Note: The same Fred Nation who left some years ago? And how easy is it to pontificate about some supposed expense but not even consider revenues? LOL. How timely.

        Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — November 21, 2013 @ 6:56 pm

      • While the financial condition of IMS is private, things do leak out. Based on the activity there in the last 5 years or so, it is pretty clear things aren’t so rosy financially at 16th and Georgetown. Add to that the rumors, it paints a clear picture. It seems you are so in love with the place and of Tony George, you can’t fathom the fact that he ran the place into the ground.
        Editor’s Note: LOL. I certainly wish the obsessed kids who hang on my every word actually had the ability to comprehend them.

        Comment by TroyM — November 22, 2013 @ 1:54 am

  4. Speaking of having more important things to worry about, why are you such a frequent visitor here, Troy?

    Comment by Bob Jenkins — November 20, 2013 @ 10:35 pm | Reply

  5. If Tony George did such a great job with the facility, why did his family fire him?
    Editor’s Note: Have you ever heard any of his siblings open their mouths to speak and/or breathe? Tony is the smart one of the family. The place has fallen apart since they separated him. That is my complaint.

    Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — November 20, 2013 @ 11:31 pm | Reply

    • THATS your answer?! They were too stupid to realize what a good job Tony was doing? You are awesome, D. That may be the best delusional answer I ahve ever read. You sure it didn’t have anything to do with the fact that he ran the place dry, created the worst open wheel car in the hostory of the sport, drove off fans and sponsors, advertisers and broadcasters, then hoarded every penny he could while delivering no value to the League, the sport or the facility. Tony’s just “misunderstood”! Thats all it is. No, that couldn’t possibly be it. LMFAO?
      Editor’s Note: Have another drink, JC. You are not illiterate enough yet.

      Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — November 21, 2013 @ 1:40 am | Reply

      • (snip)Off topic butthurt nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic(/snip)
        (snip)Even more completely off topic nonsense that has zero to do with the topic. (/snip)
        (snip)Additional whining that is completely away from the topic(/snip)
        Editor’s Note: Helpful posting hints include A) Comment specifically on the actual topic, B) Try to be literate. Even if you are critical those comments will generally make it.

        Comment by Youowemeabeerasshole — November 21, 2013 @ 6:57 pm

  6. Mr. Boles does what he is told to by the board, which is basically the Hulman-George family. He is given a budget and an agenda by them, and his job is to do as he is told. What you are doing, is trying to make the Hulman-George clan look like the victims here.
    Editor’s Note: One of the hallmarks of the children of the cart who routinely squat here (and anywhere IndyCar is discussed) is a stunning lack of reading comprehension. Not surprising given their penchant of fourth grade taunting. I’ll slow down. It does not matter how much money is allocated. What matters is how it is spent. I question the wisdom of rehabbing a poorly designed road course into something only slightly less poorly designed, particularly when all maintenance on customer-facing areas is simply stopped. That approach has ‘white trash’ written all over it.

    In regards to the video, if you look at the top of the page, it states “welcome from irldefender”, so it is you, and not a video submitted by a “concerned” fan, lol.
    Editor’s Note: Tell you what Sherlock…if you can prove I shot that video and sent it to the host site I will give you $10,000.00 in cash. If you find during the course of your sleuthing that I didn’t you promise never to post anything anywhere unless you grow a brain.

    As someone who has been to IMS many times, the state of apathy around the track has not just started recently. For a world class track, going to the washroom and having to pee into a trough, really makes IMS look amateurish.
    Editor’s Note: You should have seen them in the 60s and 70s. It sounds as though you sit down to pee. I don’t care where I spray as long as what I fire doesn’t leak out a pipe onto my shoes.

    Many of the grandstands look like something you would see at your local rundown baseball field…they need new seating, and new fences all around the track…it has been this way for years.
    Editor’s Note: I have tackled this topic before as well. They need to concentrate a lot more on customer comfort.

    Sorry, what you mistake for “mystique” and charm, is actually an aging facility that really needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new century.
    Editor’s Note: I feel sorry for those unwilling to allow the mystique and charm of the place into their consciousness. Those unwilling to do so don’t really deserve to visit.

    Take a look at the new facilities in Austin, Texas…The Circuit Of The Americas. Maybe they should be trying to build a brand new updated facility, that would be one way to try and bring back long lost fans. Having brought friends to the track many times, their first reaction is that they understand the whole mystique around the race and the place, but that they are not impressed with the actual facilities at all, moreso dissappointed.
    Editor’s Note: IMS-Born 1909. COTA-Born over one hundred years later. Get back to me in a decade or so and let’s compare notes.

    Oh yeah, if IMS was making money, Tony George would still be employed. Fact is, while i will not sit here and pretend to know exact figures of how much money he spent over the years, Tony George was using the family bank accounts to try and prop up the IRL, and making cosmetic fixes to IMS, which in itself is fine if you are making money, but we all know that was not the case.
    Editor’s Note: One of the consistently most amusing things in these comment sections are the whacko, superficial, meritless financial evaluations of that private company. On the Internet you really can say anything you want. LOL.

    I am also not a child of the cart, as you are quick to use that phrase as a cop-out. I am a fan of Indy Car Racing, but not what it has been since the Cart days of the early 2000’s. Since then, it has been a dog and pony show. I have never been a fan of the IRL version of Indy cars, as it has simply been dumbed down, contrived spec-racing for the most part.
    Editor’s Note: Then why are you here? I try to affect positive change and still enjoy fast cars racing despite obvious problems. I’ve been a paying customer since before rear engine cars. I have liked some phases better than others. As any real fan might.

    Comment by Rob Ford — November 21, 2013 @ 1:21 am | Reply

  7. You drive a Saturn? I thought you self proclaimed media insiders would at least drive a Lexus.
    Editor’s Note: Tell you what Sherlock…if you can prove I drive a Saturn or shot that video and sent it to the host site I will give you $10,000.00 in cash. If you find during the course of your sleuthing that I didn’t do either you promise never to post anything anywhere unless you grow a brain.

    Comment by Willy Pheistergache — November 21, 2013 @ 5:44 am | Reply

  8. i must have misssed were dicsiple is seen getting out of a satrun. i see one in the vidoe but i noticed the craks in the pevement were it is parked. i think ive seen him drive a red suv

    Comment by ioweyouabeerasshole — November 21, 2013 @ 11:27 am | Reply

  9. Defender, I know you try hard, VERY HARD, to be positive about Indy car. But how can the “suggestions” coming out of Indy car management lately be so consistently bad (from my point of view I guess). This is the one constant since Randy Bernard was fired. This decision to not maintain the facility is just another bad one. Will they ever get anything right?

    Comment by Bob F. — November 22, 2013 @ 2:35 pm | Reply

  10. You are just a bitter lost man since your leader went away.
    Editor’s Note: Those few oft repeated words prove conclusively to anyone who actually knows me not only precisely how full of crap you are but how severely retarded you remain in the area of reading comprehension.

    See, back in 1995/1996, there were those of us who saw that TG/IMS was doing nothing but a power play. And then there were those like you who simply didn’t care, you were going to be loyal to IMS no matter what.
    Editor’s Note: What I saw in 1995/1996 was the caretaker of the sport trying to live out a delusion of grandeur. It did not bother me at all. Had the cart community not so bitterly and stupidly overreacted we could have had more oval racing, more inclusion, and a strengthened 500 for years to come. One of the trademarks of the cart contingent was always killing golden geese mostly as the result of arrogance and abject stupidity. If you had a functioning brain and any respect at all for history these realities might begin sinking in.

    The only thing you and your ilk cared about was IMS being the king of the mountain of open wheel racing and perhaps all of racing. As many fans simply walked away from the sport, you and the rest of the Tony followers worked to destroy anything that might be a threat to the almighty IMS kingdom.
    Editor’s Note: Are you really that willfully stupid? Without IMS there is no sport. It is in the best interest of any American open wheel fan to make IMS the center and embrace it. To deny its place is to shoot yourself in the head with hollow point bullets.

    Finally after 12 years and hundreds of millions of dollars, TG siezed control of open wheel racing, only to be thrown out of power of IMS by his own family. Now all of his followers were in a state of loss, the man you had fought for and supported was no longer in charge of the kingdom you worships. Slowly, the things you fought so hard for went away also, the month of May being shortened, Pole day being changed around, more street courses, car owners getting a say-so in things. Even a May road course event at IMS! You people are at a loss since all the things you fought for have been lost after your fearless leader was tossed. All you are left to do is whine and complain about anything you can to the new people in charge
    Editor’s Note: Most of the changes are the result of cart refugees that have regained power. What you kids fail to recognize due mostly to your obvious hypocrisy is that the object of your scorn has been out of the picture for years but most of the taunts y’all are fond of tossing OCD style on blogs like these all seem to point to how rapidly the sport is going to hell in a hand basket. Do yourself a favor. Think before you post. You will come off with far more credibility.

    Comment by TroyM — November 24, 2013 @ 11:44 pm | Reply

    • Your problem is, you are still fighting the whole CART/IRL fight. You still talk about the “CART contingent” and claim that “CART refugees have regained power.” IMS was always the center of the sport, and it always would’ve been, even had Tony not started the IRL. And as much as you loved to trash anything CART related over the years, the fact is, CART was a huge part of open wheel racing. So as you danced and pissed on their grave, you were celebrating part of your favorite sport dying off.
      Editor’s Note: Wah wah wah. Stop crying. Last time I checked the sport was still going. Unlike cart. Twice. That period is in the past. Focus on the future. I am.

      Comment by TroyM — December 1, 2013 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

  11. I see the children are still at it. Makes for great internet reading. Shows the mindlessness of the brain dead. Good or bad….it remains the same and you will get more of what you want.Ever consider that Disciple isn’t the problem? He simple reports the information as he sees it. We don’t shoot the messenger for reporting the bad news. Enjoy what you have before its gone.And based on previous seasons and a new tax that will further erored the tax base, it is simple a matter of time before its gone for good.

    Comment by Oldwrench — November 28, 2013 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

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