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December 3, 2014

The IndyCar Off Season is Too Long

Filed under: The Disciple Blogs — Disciple of INDYCAR @ 2:14 pm

Sights set on IndyCarIdle thoughts: The IndyCar off season is far too lengthy. The primary tidbits of things resembling news include a dramatic increase in the number of Euro-centric formula drivers who have publicly proclaimed their sights are set on IndyCar. That is all well and good but this is a game of musical chairs with only a few chairs and a lot more bodies angling for them. The state of the sport today dictates that whoever brings the best package can buy a chair, but even then there remain drivers with talent who say they want to compete but stand as much of a chance as I do.

The good news is that demand is there at least from the formula driving community. IndyCar has made their niche far more friendly to those types by continuously increasing the percentage of non-ovals and doing everything they can to kill off the few that remain. Miserably underwhelming weekend presentations and a stunning lack of meaningful promotion at great venues such as Pocono and Ontario are proof.

If IndyCar is smart (and few have ever accused the organization of that) they will make an effort to attract not just drivers but new teams and sponsors in which to place the drivers. It seems like a golden opportunity considering the way Formula 1 has priced some teams out of existence and no discernable path exists for junior formula series participants to advance. It certainly would be nice if IndyCar would actually emphasize the diversity about which it boasts.

Dan Anderson, oval averse as he is, actually continues to grow the Lights and other ladder series and that is commendable. IndyCar, however, could use an influx of professional teams.

KirbyAbout the only other amusing tidbit this week is another rehash on the web of the dark days of the sport written from the standpoint of a bitter, failed former cart employee for no apparent reason. Most of us legacy IndyCar fans who have stuck with the sport keep rooting for such hacks to die off (metaphorically speaking) before we do and that succeeding generations of racing fans alienated by mostly the sheer lack of coherent marketing over the years.

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  1. Dear Defender:

    Yes, the off-season is way too long and instead of having the underwhelming number of teams and drivers who have already committed to the series for 2015 making preparations to run in earnest in points paying events, we have to wait until the last weekend in March for action…. the very fact that the series’ leadership fails to comprehend that the big bad football season ends February 1, leaving America with nothing much to watch other than meaningless college and NBA games (and hockey for our Canadian friends), but refuses to start scheduling events in the warm and sunny Sunbelt at places, any places, in Florida and across Dixie all the way to Arizona and California, presents clear evidence of the ineptitude and hubris at 16th and Georgetown. Regarding the lack of meaningful marketing and promotion of oval events, perhaps now is the time for the Hulman-Georges to reallocate some of those millions the series receives from ABC-Capital Cities for the Indy 500 broadcast rights and spend the money on a new and innovative marketing arm designed solely for the purpose of improving the marketing of oval events and increasing awareness about the very existence of these races….I have long told you about the bewilderment that I experience when traveling to places like Pocono, Iowa, even Fort Worth, where the local populations, like the staff at my hotel, had no clue about the Indy Car event being held in or near their city…how about we end the corporate welfare known as the “Leader’s Circle” handouts and let the teams fend for themselves while the series sinks this money into serious marketing and promotion, across all platforms and aimed at all types of potential race attendees, from us die hard old timers to the youth of America….really, will we miss the backmarker teams? At the end of the day, the big three teams have dominated for years and 2015 will be no different with Penske fielding four solid entries, Ganassi having another four contenders and Andretti having three now and perhaps a forth well-equipped and funded driver….as for the F1 rejects coming over here for a spin, I consider this nothing but a positive if Jean-Eric Vergne or Chandok or some other foreigner brings $$$ to a struggling team….this will complement my plan of abolishing the current policy of propping up backmarker teams with series’ funds that are better spent on advertising, especially for the endangered and vanishing ovals…

    Comment by Neil Rubin — December 3, 2014 @ 3:15 pm | Reply

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      Comment by Bob Chinn — December 7, 2014 @ 5:36 am | Reply

  2. Kirby flat out nailed it in his most recent column. Only the bitter and ignorant could disagree with what was a brutally truthful article.
    Editor’s Note: It goes to figure that your sentiment is aligned with Kirby and that you would pigeonhole that blurb. LOL. If you are honest you can probably intelligently explain A) any new ground Kirby covers, B) how it differs from the vast majority of his content over the past decade and a half and C) how long he intends to remain parked in 1989. Most importantly, when will he and his devotees evolve to a civilized, human-like point at which they can let go of what they convinced themselves they had and work as mature adults to more intelligently mold the future of the sport while being careful to avoid mistakes that proved suicidal, twice?

    Comment by Bob Chinn — December 4, 2014 @ 4:09 am | Reply

  3. Editor’s Note: I could not help noticing you failed (as usual) to either address or answer the most important question; i.e., ‘…when will he and his devotees evolve to a civilized, human-like point at which they can let go of what they convinced themselves they had and work as mature adults to more intelligently mold the future of the sport while being careful to avoid mistakes that proved suicidal, twice?’ Can you and your giant, adult, business-savvy intellect kindly tackle that one for me?

    A. Why does he need to cover “new ground” when the bitter and ignorant still fail to comprehend the obvious truths he shared of that era of the sport?
    Editor’s Note: I do not believe anyone with even minimally firing synapses fails to comprehend what Kirby is saying. Our beliefs are simply that he should probably seek professional treatment for OCD because he keeps repeating the same dated propaganda that has no bearing at all on the sport today.

    B. See #1. When certain people fail to understand what actually occurred and foolishly invent their own history, the real story must be told, sometimes repetitively;
    Editor’s Note: Like some deranged mental patient.

    C. It would seem that he’s not “stuck in 1989” so much as he’s frustrated by the e incredibly uninformed or transparently biased types who both ignored what happened then and continue to champion many of the same misguided steps since that era of unquestioned success. It started with a foolish power grab by someone whose only “qualification” was his bloodline and progressed through continual mismanagement to the point where the series and its marquee event have been relegated to the bargain bin in the American (and world) sporting landscape. Like any historian, chronicling the events of the past can greatly assist in shaping a better future. Of course, those who celebrated those devastating actions must either get their heads out of the sand or their rear ends out of the way. Or both. Unfortunately, neither are likely to occur, and the downward spiral will continue until the family decides they’ve lost enough money and sell it actual adults who are qualified to operate a business.
    Editor’s Note: I prefer dealing in factual content. Most racing fans know that the modus operandi of the Hulman family where IMS is concerned is never far removed from 1946 even though the world is now in 2014. We also know that the most important thing to the Hulman descendants is IMS. The races that support it are secondary. It has always been that way. Credit to Gurney and such folks for seeing the potential of everything else and making a go of building it into something special. The way they went about it, however, reeks of sheer arrogance, greed and an inability to manage itself in the real world. When that bunch made the decision to willingly let loose of the one teat that kept them nourished they killed themselves off completely within five years and the bastard stepchild series that resulted lasted far less time. The only reason many of them are still around is because IMS rescued them by purchasing what little assets remained. Life lesson they should learn: There are more effective ways to wrest some semblance of control without arrogant confrontation. If the Hulmans are so stupid and mutinous owners are so smart one might think they would figure it out. But when looking at the only scoreboard that matters the Hulmans have been winning whatever silly battle that has confronted them since 1946. Series that claimed to be better managed failed. Moral of the tale: They should plant their pompous asses inside 2014 and work toward the future and leave fantasies about things that happened 25 years ago in the palms of of their hands with a box of Kleenex nearby.

    Comment by Bob Chinn — December 4, 2014 @ 5:22 pm | Reply

  4. Editor’s Note: Still no answer to an original question you have been ignoring: ‘…when will he and his devotees evolve to a civilized, human-like point at which they can let go of what they convinced themselves they had and work as mature adults to more intelligently mold the future of the sport while being careful to avoid mistakes that proved suicidal, twice?’

    You foolishly lecture about others living in the past yet cite 1946 as the focal point of the Hulman’s. It would be funny if it wasn’t so incredibly stupid.
    Editor’s Note: Are you as mentally retarded as you appear? Not mentally retarded as a cruel moniker for Down Syndrome…I mean actually retarded mentally. How in the world did you magically divine that I made 1946 as some sort of Hulman focal point? You REALLY need to start comprehending what you think you read. Is it any wonder folks like you and Kirby preach cart with the same fervor as a bible thumping zealot preaches the baby Jesus? The primary point of one little comment in one throwaway paragraph written in response to your ongoing obsessed nonsense is actually chiding Hulmans for never being far removed from where they were when the family took control. Evidently that is too advanced a notion for you to pick up. It’s tedious.

    As to the rest of your rant, it is willfully ignorant on its best day and purposely dishonest at its worst. In either instance, the Hulman’s have taken the sport to new lows, supported by those like you who invent their own history rather than learn from what actually occurred. It’s why indy and the series are now a sporting afterthought. Why you openly support demonstrated failure is beyond me, but it is you who should seek help.
    Editor’s Note: There you go again with the crapper playbook, again for no apparent reason: Chide actual racing fans. Check. Claim the entire sport is in the nearly gone, at all time lows, etc., all because of Hulmans. Check. Position the Indianapolis 500 as on it’s last legs. Check. Failure. Check. But wait. Actual reality sets in. IndyCar is still around, as it has been for over 100 years. The 500 is preparing for its 100th running. The 500 remains the most highly rated IndyCar event by a wide margin. Oh, and most Hulman descendants are either out or relegated to junior positions. Meanwhile, the two attempts to follow the business model proposed by the handful of you have ended miserably in bankruptcy and non-existence. My advice: Grow up and move forward with your lives.

    Comment by Bob Chinn — December 5, 2014 @ 2:05 am | Reply

  5. I’ve answered your question twice
    Editor’s Note: Actually you haven’t. Not even close.

    but your abject lack of intelligence and decades long bitterness apparently prevents you from comprehending what is right in front of you.
    Editor’s Note: I am what people with the ability to both think and comprehend refer to as a ‘racing fan.’ I watch most disciplines, and have been a fan of IndyCar in all it’s iterations since I first saw a car in person in the late 1950s. Pay attention kid.

    The writer has long ago evolved . . .
    Editor’s Note: Actually he hasn’t. He appears to be one of those bitter ‘get off my lawn’ types whose time in the spotlight has passed. He is unable to reflect with objectivity and basically writes the exact same diatribe every few months. He is a laughingstock on a web page.

    That he and others continually need to revisit history as a means of showing those disaffected “fans” (like you) the considerable error of your ways before the stewards of the sport that you blindly support destroy things once and for all shows their frustration with the shallow thinkers.
    Editor’s Note: Basic review time. Which series remains in business and running a full schedule of races, and which ones are actually out of business? Hello. Earth to Chinn.

    History has proven you wrong time and again, yet you foolishly cling to the notion that everything is great, that the sport and its marquee event are still popular, that the cars are cutting edge, and that audiences are growing (both at the track and on television). None of that, of course, is true, yet you perpetuate it like Bagdad Bob, losing credibility with every utterance.
    Editor’s Note: And you continue suffering from severe retardation when it comes to reading comprehension. Everything is good. Not great. It has rarely been ‘great’ under any regime, although the sport itself continues to be great to actual fans. The marquee remains popular with hundreds of thousands in attendance and great sports television ratings. The cars are spec and very few fans actually like that. The television audience is rising (growing is not the right word), but I am not as concerned about that as I am with a continuing lousy marketing effort (one of the actual subjects of the piece). Helpful advice from an adult: Learn how to read.

    And, doubling down, when you’re conclusively proven wrong (over and over again), you resort to childish insults and name calling. In the end, it is you who hasn’t evolved. The writer and most true fans of the sport have, too. Why not put away your bitterness and join them?
    Editor’s Note: This attempt at dialog has probably run it’s course. You have reverted to your usual useless meandering.

    Comment by Bob Chinn — December 5, 2014 @ 5:51 pm | Reply

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